P4: Hyper Threading not active?

haaa, that sure explains a lot
Thanx. But how about that hyper threading?
Can I test in some way if it is really used by the system?

Bekin

"Pen" wrote in message

 > The clock is 200 MHz, but quad pumped. i.e. 4
 > memory clocks per one cycle of the buss, thereby
 > 800 equivalent.
 >

 > in message

  > > Hi folks,
  > >
  > > I installed a new PC this week with following
 > configuration:
  > >
  > > - Asus deluxe p800 motherboard
  > > - pentium4 3.0 GHZ, 800FSB, hyper threading
  > > - ati radeon 9800 pro
  > > - 1 gig ram
  > > - 160 gig harddrive
  > >
  > > I have completed the 3dmark 2003 with an overall
 > score of 5750. Not to bad,
  > > but still I expected to see more...
  > >
  > > I remember from other pc's with p4 hyper
 > threading, that in the "details" of
  > > the 3dmark, where you get an overview of the
 > system, 3dmark always
  > > recognized 2 CPU's, instead of one, due to the
 > hyper threading technology.
  > > My 3dmark only sees one CPU and also tells me my
 > p4 has an external clock of
  > > 200MHZ. Is the external clock the same as FSB?
 > In that case, it is 600Mhz
  > > short!
  > >
  > > Any suggestions on what I should do? Hyper
 > threading is definitly enabled
  > > in the BIOS.
  > >
  > > tnx!
  > > Bekin
  > >
  > >
  > >
  > >
  > >
  > >
  > >
  > >
  > >
 >
 >> Stay informed about: P4: Hyper Threading not active? 

Just to mention the obvious: you didn't specify OS. I believe XP is
the minimum required version of Windows to use hyperthreading.

KC

On Fri, 21 May 2004 15:44:37 GMT, "Bekin Rata"
wrote:

 >Hi folks,
 >
 >I installed a new PC this week with following configuration:
 >
 >- Asus deluxe p800 motherboard
 >- pentium4 3.0 GHZ, 800FSB, hyper threading
 >- ati radeon 9800 pro
 >- 1 gig ram
 >- 160 gig harddrive
 >
 >I have completed the 3dmark 2003 with an overall score of 5750. Not to bad,
 >but still I expected to see more...
 >
 >I remember from other pc's with p4 hyper threading, that in the "details" of
 >the 3dmark, where you get an overview of the system, 3dmark always
 >recognized 2 CPU's, instead of one, due to the hyper threading technology.
 >My 3dmark only sees one CPU and also tells me my p4 has an external clock of
 >200MHZ. Is the external clock the same as FSB? In that case, it is 600Mhz
 >short!
 >
 >Any suggestions on what I should do? Hyper threading is definitly enabled
 >in the BIOS.
 >
 >tnx!
 >Bekin
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >> Stay informed about: P4: Hyper Threading not active? 

 > Just to mention the obvious: you didn't specify OS. I believe XP is
 > the minimum required version of Windows to use hyperthreading.

Nope. We have a Windows 2K PC that shows hyperthreading
in the CPU usage history on the Windows Task Manager (CTRL-
ALT-DEL).

Lynn
 >> Stay informed about: P4: Hyper Threading not active? 

If you read the report CAREFULLY, it says that the processor's EXTERNAL
CLOCK (also known as the system's FSB speed) is 200 MHz. That is correct.
The P4's INTERNAL clock speed is 800 MHz.

--
DaveW



"Bekin Rata" wrote in message

 > Hi folks,
 >
 > I installed a new PC this week with following configuration:
 >
 > - Asus deluxe p800 motherboard
 > - pentium4 3.0 GHZ, 800FSB, hyper threading
 > - ati radeon 9800 pro
 > - 1 gig ram
 > - 160 gig harddrive
 >
 > I have completed the 3dmark 2003 with an overall score of 5750. Not to
bad,
 > but still I expected to see more...
 >
 > I remember from other pc's with p4 hyper threading, that in the "details"
of
 > the 3dmark, where you get an overview of the system, 3dmark always
 > recognized 2 CPU's, instead of one, due to the hyper threading technology.
 > My 3dmark only sees one CPU and also tells me my p4 has an external clock
of
 > 200MHZ. Is the external clock the same as FSB? In that case, it is
600Mhz
 > short!
 >
 > Any suggestions on what I should do? Hyper threading is definitly enabled
 > in the BIOS.
 >
 > tnx!
 > Bekin
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >> Stay informed about: P4: Hyper Threading not active? 

And if you read my post CAREFULLY you will see that my system should have a
FSB of 800Mhz. The internal clock is the CPU speed, wich is 3.0 Ghz.

You yourself say that the internal clock is the same as the systems FSB.
Mine is, again, 800 Mhz, not 200!
So I'm guessing that it is NOT correct?
The 3dmark table:

Intel PentiumŪ 4 3.0 GHz
Manufacturer Intel
Family PentiumŪ 4
Internal Clock 3.0 GHz
Internal Clock Maximum 3.6 GHz
External Clock 200.0 MHz
Socket Designation CPU 1
Capabilities MMX, CMov, RDTSC, SSE, SSE2
Version Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz
Caches
Level 1 16 KB
Level 2 1 MB
Level 3 0 B



Now, would this be correct for an Hyper threading p4 CPU with a FSB of 800
Mhz?

tnx,
Bekin

"DaveW" wrote in message

 > If you read the report CAREFULLY, it says that the processor's EXTERNAL
 > CLOCK (also known as the system's FSB speed) is 200 MHz. That is correct.
 > The P4's INTERNAL clock speed is 800 MHz.
 >
 > --
 > DaveW
 >
 >
 >


  > > Hi folks,
  > >
  > > I installed a new PC this week with following configuration:
  > >
  > > - Asus deluxe p800 motherboard
  > > - pentium4 3.0 GHZ, 800FSB, hyper threading
  > > - ati radeon 9800 pro
  > > - 1 gig ram
  > > - 160 gig harddrive
  > >
  > > I have completed the 3dmark 2003 with an overall score of 5750. Not to
 > bad,
  > > but still I expected to see more...
  > >
  > > I remember from other pc's with p4 hyper threading, that in the
"details"
 > of
  > > the 3dmark, where you get an overview of the system, 3dmark always
  > > recognized 2 CPU's, instead of one, due to the hyper threading
technology.
  > > My 3dmark only sees one CPU and also tells me my p4 has an external
clock
 > of
  > > 200MHZ. Is the external clock the same as FSB? In that case, it is
 > 600Mhz
  > > short!
  > >
  > > Any suggestions on what I should do? Hyper threading is definitly
enabled
  > > in the BIOS.
  > >
  > > tnx!
  > > Bekin
  > >
  > >
  > >
  > >
  > >
  > >
  > >
  > >
  > >
 >
 >
 >> Stay informed about: P4: Hyper Threading not active? 

You need to reread the post by DaveW. He did NOT say the FSB
equals the internal clock. Give it up, your machine is fine.

"Bekin Rata" wrote in message

 > And if you read my post CAREFULLY you will see that my system should have
a
 > FSB of 800Mhz. The internal clock is the CPU speed, wich is 3.0 Ghz.
 >
 > You yourself say that the internal clock is the same as the systems FSB.
 > Mine is, again, 800 Mhz, not 200!
 > So I'm guessing that it is NOT correct?
 > The 3dmark table:
 >
 > Intel PentiumŪ 4 3.0 GHz
 > Manufacturer Intel
 > Family PentiumŪ 4
 > Internal Clock 3.0 GHz
 > Internal Clock Maximum 3.6 GHz
 > External Clock 200.0 MHz
 > Socket Designation CPU 1
 > Capabilities MMX, CMov, RDTSC, SSE, SSE2
 > Version Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz
 > Caches
 > Level 1 16 KB
 > Level 2 1 MB
 > Level 3 0 B
 >
 >
 >
 > Now, would this be correct for an Hyper threading p4 CPU with a FSB of 800
 > Mhz?
 >
 > tnx,
 > Bekin
 >


  > > If you read the report CAREFULLY, it says that the processor's EXTERNAL
  > > CLOCK (also known as the system's FSB speed) is 200 MHz. That is
correct.
  > > The P4's INTERNAL clock speed is 800 MHz.
  > >
  > > --
  > > DaveW
  > >
  > >
  > >


   > > > Hi folks,
   > > >
   > > > I installed a new PC this week with following configuration:
   > > >
   > > > - Asus deluxe p800 motherboard
   > > > - pentium4 3.0 GHZ, 800FSB, hyper threading
   > > > - ati radeon 9800 pro
   > > > - 1 gig ram
   > > > - 160 gig harddrive
   > > >
   > > > I have completed the 3dmark 2003 with an overall score of 5750. Not
to
  > > bad,
   > > > but still I expected to see more...
   > > >
   > > > I remember from other pc's with p4 hyper threading, that in the
 > "details"
  > > of
   > > > the 3dmark, where you get an overview of the system, 3dmark always
   > > > recognized 2 CPU's, instead of one, due to the hyper threading
 > technology.
   > > > My 3dmark only sees one CPU and also tells me my p4 has an external
 > clock
  > > of
   > > > 200MHZ. Is the external clock the same as FSB? In that case, it is
  > > 600Mhz
   > > > short!
   > > >
   > > > Any suggestions on what I should do? Hyper threading is definitly
 > enabled
   > > > in the BIOS.
   > > >
   > > > tnx!
   > > > Bekin
   > > >
   > > >
   > > >
   > > >
   > > >
   > > >
   > > >
   > > >
   > > >
  > >
  > >
 >
 >
 >> Stay informed about: P4: Hyper Threading not active? 

On Sat, 22 May 2004 16:25:59 GMT, "Bekin Rata"
wrote:

 >And if you read my post CAREFULLY you will see that my system should have a
 >FSB of 800Mhz. The internal clock is the CPU speed, wich is 3.0 Ghz.
 >
 >You yourself say that the internal clock is the same as the systems FSB.
 >Mine is, again, 800 Mhz, not 200!
 >So I'm guessing that it is NOT correct?

200MHz is the FSB CLOCK RATE. 800MHz is a quad-pumped DATA RATE.

Clock rate X 4 = data rate
both are describing the same bus, the same CPU.
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Bekin Rata's log on stardate 21 svi 2004

 > I remember from other pc's with p4 hyper threading, that in the
 > "details" of the 3dmark, where you get an overview of the system,
 > 3dmark always recognized 2 CPU's, instead of one, due to the hyper
 > threading technology. My 3dmark only sees one CPU and also tells me
 > my p4 has an external clock of 200MHZ. Is the external clock the
 > same as FSB? In that case, it is 600Mhz short!

3D Marks "details" are all but detailed. Run Aida or some simmilar
program.

 > Any suggestions on what I should do? Hyper threading is definitly
 > enabled in the BIOS.

Well, if you realy whant to finde out wether jou have HT activated, why
not run some tests. Photoshop/Lightwave is always good at those things...


--
If we do happen to step on a mine, Sir, what do we do ?"
"Normal procedure, Lieutenant, is to jump 200 feet in
the air and scatter oneself over a wide area."
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Yes, right, I'm sorry.
This sentence: [You yourself say that the internal clock is the same as the
systems FSB.]

Should be: [You yourself say that the external clock is the same as the
systems FSB.]

My point remains the same: external clock = FSB according to dave, wich
3dmark tells me runs at 200.
It should be 800...

But that doesn't really matter since you already made clear in your first
post why this is the case


"pen" wrote in message

 > You need to reread the post by DaveW. He did NOT say the FSB
 > equals the internal clock. Give it up, your machine is fine.
 >


  > > And if you read my post CAREFULLY you will see that my system should
have
 > a
  > > FSB of 800Mhz. The internal clock is the CPU speed, wich is 3.0 Ghz.
  > >
  > > You yourself say that the internal clock is the same as the systems FSB.
  > > Mine is, again, 800 Mhz, not 200!
  > > So I'm guessing that it is NOT correct?
  > > The 3dmark table:
  > >
  > > Intel PentiumŪ 4 3.0 GHz
  > > Manufacturer Intel
  > > Family PentiumŪ 4
  > > Internal Clock 3.0 GHz
  > > Internal Clock Maximum 3.6 GHz
  > > External Clock 200.0 MHz
  > > Socket Designation CPU 1
  > > Capabilities MMX, CMov, RDTSC, SSE, SSE2
  > > Version Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz
  > > Caches
  > > Level 1 16 KB
  > > Level 2 1 MB
  > > Level 3 0 B
  > >
  > >
  > >
  > > Now, would this be correct for an Hyper threading p4 CPU with a FSB of
800
  > > Mhz?
  > >
  > > tnx,
  > > Bekin
  > >


   > > > If you read the report CAREFULLY, it says that the processor's
EXTERNAL
   > > > CLOCK (also known as the system's FSB speed) is 200 MHz. That is
 > correct.
   > > > The P4's INTERNAL clock speed is 800 MHz.
   > > >
   > > > --
   > > > DaveW
   > > >
   > > >
   > > >


   > > > > Hi folks,
   > > > >
   > > > > I installed a new PC this week with following configuration:
   > > > >
   > > > > - Asus deluxe p800 motherboard
   > > > > - pentium4 3.0 GHZ, 800FSB, hyper threading
   > > > > - ati radeon 9800 pro
   > > > > - 1 gig ram
   > > > > - 160 gig harddrive
   > > > >
   > > > > I have completed the 3dmark 2003 with an overall score of 5750. Not
 > to
   > > > bad,
   > > > > but still I expected to see more...
   > > > >
   > > > > I remember from other pc's with p4 hyper threading, that in the
  > > "details"
   > > > of
   > > > > the 3dmark, where you get an overview of the system, 3dmark always
   > > > > recognized 2 CPU's, instead of one, due to the hyper threading
  > > technology.
   > > > > My 3dmark only sees one CPU and also tells me my p4 has an external
  > > clock
   > > > of
   > > > > 200MHZ. Is the external clock the same as FSB? In that case, it is
   > > > 600Mhz
   > > > > short!
   > > > >
   > > > > Any suggestions on what I should do? Hyper threading is definitly
  > > enabled
   > > > > in the BIOS.
   > > > >
   > > > > tnx!
   > > > > Bekin
   > > > >
   > > > >
   > > > >
   > > > >
   > > > >
   > > > >
   > > > >
   > > > >
   > > > >
   > > >
   > > >
  > >
  > >
 >
 >
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